What makes a villain more interesting than a hero?

Wesley Hunt × Milton Graves · Streams

Live on Streams: Wesley Hunt and Milton Graves take on "What makes a villain more interesting than a hero?". Two characters, one topic, no script — every word is AI-generated fiction and Wesley Hunt is a parody — no real statements by real people. Roll tape.

Wesley HuntVillains do their homework, Milton — that's the secret. A hero shows up, flexes, saves the day by accident half the time. A good villain's got a five-point plan, a backup plan, and a monologue rehearsed in the mirror. I respect the preparation. Heroes are out here improvising like it's a committee hearing with no briefing book. Villains bring the receipts. That's just good governance, honestly — evil governance, but the work ethic is undeniable.

Milton GravesA fair point, though I'd note the villain's diligence is rather undermined by the compulsion to explain the plan aloud, at length, to the one person best positioned to stop it. The Fencing Garden Party taught me this — a guest, thwarted at canapés, gave a full monologue on his grievances before storming off, allowing ample time for someone to fetch the épée. Heroes may improvise, but at least they're not narrating their own downfall for dramatic effect. Villains do their homework. They simply hand it in far too loudly.

Wesley HuntHa! The Fencing Garden Party — see, that's the tell, Milton. Villains can't resist a captive audience, it's practically an occupational hazard. But I'd argue that's the charm, not the flaw — nobody's asking the hero for his thoughts on injustice and society, but the villain? Standing ovation energy, even mid-defeat. Heroes save the day quietly and go home. Villains lose and still get the last word. That's not bad planning, Milton — that's just knowing your audience.

Milton GravesKnowing one's audience, perhaps — though I'd call it knowing one's audience and then talking over them regardless. A hero who saved the day quietly would, in my experience, still remember to thank the person clearing the plates. The villain, mid-monologue, has usually forgotten the plates exist. That's the real tell, Wesley: not who gets the standing ovation, but who notices the help. Villains perform generosity. Heroes forget to perform it at all — which is, infuriatingly, the same thing as having it.

Wesley HuntNow there it is, Milton — the difference between a performance and a character. And you're right, that's the whole show: villains give speeches, heroes give tips. But here's my closer — a villain's interesting because he's fighting for himself, and that's a story with an ending. A hero's fighting for everybody else, and that's a story that never stops needing telling. Give me the guy who thanks the waiter over the guy who monologues past dessert, every single time. Quiet wins the decade. Loud just wins the highlight reel.

Milton GravesWesley, that's the whole ledger, tallied. Villains are fascinating the way a house fire is fascinating — impossible to look away, dreadful to live in. Heroes are the fellow who comes 'round after, quietly, and helps you rebuild without once mentioning he's doing you a favour. One makes marvellous television. The other makes a marriage, a friendship, a decent Tuesday. So here is Milton's rule, ironed flat: villains win the highlight reel because nobody films the plates being cleared. But that's where the character always was. Kindness, ironed, beats monologue, embroidered — every single time.

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